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[admin]

We have had a number of indivduals who have compalined about VOTE STUFFING and have even taken the actions of posting anti-profiles to complain. As site administrator we have responded with our comments on the HOME page of the site.

Since we have launched the site, we have encountered Vote Stuffing a number of times. We do not view POSITIVE vote stuffing [i.e. votes FOR a particular profile] as harmful to thus site. We have seen a number of profiles who have benefited from this activity, without HARMING the other profiles on the site. In short, if you can get your friends to all vote for your profile, then who are we to dissuade you and your friends from visiting us? With over 700 profiles and 1000 pictures, we have a number of profiles to view and vote on.

On the opposite side, we have also encountered NEGATIVE vote stuffing, and have taken a strong position AGAINST this type of activity. We have had to BAN certain users due to this type of action. We have banned over a dozen users [or just one a**hole] for this "Negative Vote Stuffing". Negative vote stuffing harms the targeted profiles and makes this site less appealing to our users. Thus, our position is that NVS is NOT allowed.

We have emailed a number of the participates to mitigate the issue and to get back to normal.

However, we are willing to listen to you the visitors and see what you think. Take a moment and leave your comments!

[Guest]

This morning I watched as 4 users; nikki69, simplebeauty, petitediane and whatawoman, were negatively stuffed. Their averaqes dropped siginificantly.

While not an admionistrator on the server, it seems pretty obvious that user sabrinaxxx, is responsible.

[admin]

While it is appreciated that some of you wish to identify others for vote stuffing, it should be stated that this problem existed prior to the SabrinaXXX profile being submitted. In a review of the IP activities of many, they did not even visit the site when we initially were having this problem. So to suggest that they are the root of this problem is to fail to see that there are others that are causing this. Additionally, we had banned over 12 abusive voters prior to their first visit.

We have also corrected the negative vote stuffing on the profiles listed above. My only comment on that list is... how would you, be capable of knowing that those four profiles were targeted? I had to review my logs to see that they were targeted! My feeling is that with almost 750 profiles that you must be clairvoyant to know that they were targeted.

Separately, we have debated the matter of allowing for people to have only ONE vote, but it defeats the purpose and fun of this site to have that limitation. So, we will continue to allow for multiple voting on profiles by all.

XTC Network Administrator

[admin]

We have been tracking this matter very closely as of late. We are aware of those who have been vote stuffing ... both positive and negatively. We have been tracking, via IP, the actions of many users. At present, we have banned another 2 users for their actions.

We are taking a very strong approach to this matter and feel that everyone needs to relax a bit. This site is ment to be a fun frolic daily escape.

XTC Network Administrator

[annmwf]

Just an FYI that for each of the past three days pictures from my user account, ANNMWF, have been stuffed negatively. I hope that the administrator is truly monitoring this and will act on it.

[admin]

We are continuing our efforts to prevent this problem. Unfortunately, we have a number of 'assholes' who feel that they must act in a way that is negative for the individual profiles and for the site in general. We are working diligently on resolving this matter, and for you 'assholes' [you know who you are] please stop. What could you possibly gain by continuing with your stupid actions?

XTC Network ADMIN

[You Know Who]

This is addressed to Mark. You will be continuously stuffed until you stop stuffing other people who are posting on this site. Your pic sucks anyway! Why don't you try posting some quality shots ansd perhaps then other people will vote you up instead of yourself all the time.

[Mark]

I really appreciate your attributing the vote stuffing to me... unfortunately, your misguided in your thinking. The site shows me as having posted my picture on September 8th, 2003 and in looking at this discussion thread, it appears that the vote stuffing has been ongoing for MONTHS PRIOR to my finding this great site and posting my picture.

The only REPEAT voting is for my OWN PICTURE and none other. I do enjoying voting for the other pictures... but only the the random order that they appear.

It also appears that others, read above if your capable, have left the site due to the Vote Stuffing from you and others. Since you are an admitted vote stuffer [I presume that your the one negatively stuffing my excellent and erotic picture] I would suggest that you get a life and do what I do... and that is POSITIVELY Vote Stuff and NOT NEGATIVELY Vote Stuff... but something as logical as that would escape your rat brain.

So... YOU KNOW WHO ... I would suggest that you pull your head out of your ass and apologize for suggesting that a NEW finder for the site is OUT TO GET YOU. To continue to suggest that I am the culpret for this matter, is like suggesting that that I am the murder that OJ has been seeking.

My suggestion is that you STOP vote stuffing my picture and get on with voting for the numerous beautiful women who are posted on this site. This site ROCKS and it would be a shame if the site continues to suffer from the individuals who feel that the only way to succeed is to bring others down.

Just for you... I am going to not vote another time for my picture. Does that make you happy...????

[You Know Who]

I know perfectly well that it is you that was stuffing the vote count. A simple mathematical analysis pointed out you as the culprit. The days you were voting yourself up for which I was monitoring carefully and at the same instance some of the pictures that were above yours in vote count being stuffed. I agree that vote stuffing has been going on for a long time on this site way before you decided to place your despicable picture on this wonderful site and I also agree that there is nothing wrong with vote stuffing provided that it is not intentional to any specific person. You have directed your emphasis to specific people on this site lately and therefore will be targeted and stuffed every time you vote yourself up. I honestly don't believe that there are people who are prepared to vote "quote" your excellent and erotic picture. There is no reason for me to ever apologize to you in any form or manner, your despotic attitude needs some adjusting and it is you that THAT SHOULD WATCH OUT for the old experienced users of this site. So! to be blunt with you, #@*off and get a life!

[admin]

I hate to break up this discussion, but, Mark is telling the truth. In reviewing our logs, we have determined that the vast majority of his votes are just for himself... and irregular voting patter for other profiles.

In our review of our voting logs, we have continued to block more and more IP's for their actions. So that everyone understands, we review the voting patterns of a number of IP's and attempt to determine their impact on a particular profile... if it is highly negative, we block that IP from access to the site.

XTC Network Admin

[You Know Who]

Thanks for clearing up some issues Admin. Well Mark, it does seem that you are correct and I do owe you an apology. It seemed at the time that you were stuffing my vote and perhaps coincidental that you were on line at that moment. So once again I take back all my rude comments and will not proceed by stuffing your vote.

Cheers